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Ao3 and Wattpad users

(TW?? idk how these things work)
maybe I need to get off of the internet but I've been seeing a lot of discourse from the quote great Wattpad migration in quote people are migrating a03 in protest of wattpads new community guidelinesAnd have found that 803 is a culture shock with the censorship there isn't any censorship on A03. original A03 users are complaining basically saying that Wattpad users are too sensitive and too uptight and Puritan while Wattpad users are saying A03 users are complete deprived freaks and P3dos. now this threw me for a loop when I heard this and then I finally looked at both sides of the discourse and normally I try to look at it from both angles and hear both sides out but on one side I'm hearing ‘oh this is too much’ ‘What if a child comes across this’ ‘ we need stricter censorship’ and on the other side I'm hearing ‘ it's not it's not CP if it's fictional’ ‘ a predatory relationship 30 year old man and a 7 year old little girl is fine because it's not hurting any real people’ ‘ let people like what they like’ l and honestly I was trying to hear the people on a03 out but I can't I genuinely cannot and I hope this is just a minor extremely vocal minority of people that think it's okay to read media depicting children being assaulted by adults but then turn around and saying it's okay because it's not real kids ??? I've seen people say Oh these Wattpad users I have gone so far left they've turned right’ oh it's a radical take to not want to see to hopefully rid the internet of pedophilic content ???
But my verdict is Wattpad users need to stop complaining about the harsh censorship if they're just going to turn around and go someplace else with a looser censorship and then complain about minor things like step siblings and monsters, but A03 users need to tighten the fuck up cuz y'all are looking like people I don't want to leave my children around it's also what I'm saying I feel like there can be a middle ground here. But at the end of the day it's probably hopefully a small vocal minority of each group coming to the Limelight and we all need to go outside touchgrass and talk to real people because remember nothing on the Internet is real.

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There are AO3 users who oppose the rancid shit on there, but the way the site is run fosters the extreme anti-censorship beliefs you mentioned. Honestly, the more I exist around AO3, the less I like it. Such a shame because the search and tagging functions are excellent. I need to find an alternative site that keeps the filtering system, but doesn't allow the heinous shit AO3 does.

I don't know what Wattpad users are like, even when generalised, so I can't speak about them. Based on what you said, though, I do think they need to understand that the Internet is the Internet. Unfortunately, Rule 34 is a thing. As much as they freak out, sites like AO3 will exist. That doesn't mean that's a good thing, but it happens nonetheless.

Really, though, AO3 concerns me. The site claims to be an archive, but I see it more as a posting platform. You don't see people uploading new works to the Internet Archive because an archive isn't designed to store new things. It preserves the old. I also doubt the Internet Archive would allow the shit AO3 does. Even museums that showcase these things have the basic tact to say, "This is history, but it is fucked up." AO3 users post because they don't see it as fucked up in the first place.
i def think the people who so staunchly defend the creepy and gross shit on ao3 are weird, and we can and certainly should call people out for what they feel comfortable posting on the internet, but a lot of people are forgetting/don't know why ao3 was made in the first place. it was made to be completely free of censorship, including all the creepy and gross shit. the people who are calling for censoring of the site seem to not be understanding that these are the base principles it was founded upon. if they want a fanfiction site that censors those things, they should find one that they like. if ao3 didn't allow fics like those, then they would still exist, just untagged and unknown until you unfortunately stumble upon them. i want my uncensored site with all the capability of never having to interact with that shit.
unfortunately there's a lot of nuance to this convo, and people fucking hate that on the internet. you're right that it is a v small minority of both communities tho, most of us don't have any actual issues besides a small joke here and there
This is why if I make fanfics, they're gonna be on a personal site or dreamwidth or something because I cannot stand either side of this tbh. Wattpad users need to learn how to curate their space, but AO3 users also need to realize their incest omegaverse fanfics being criticized is not comparable to fucking ICE.
I sometimes write fanfiction on AO3 and tend to upload it there but reading it is something I do less often because of how disgusting some of the works I see there are. I do really wish that there was censorship to some degree (specifically for pedo/incest relationships) on AO3 because some of the stuff there is genuinely concerning, so I can completely understand wattpad turned ao3 users complaining. I believe the only appropriate depiction of incest or pedo relations is as some sort of cautionary tale, NOT as romanticisation.

That's just my take though o(* ̄︶ ̄*)o

Just as a tip if you dont want to see such because ao3 censorship is likely never going to happen, immediately filter out everything you dont want to see. Saves your eyes from intense amounts of bleach.